Regarding Gun Defense Statistics

whygunrights:

Here are some statistics that you asked for here and here:

• In 83.5% (2,087,500) of these successful gun defenses, the attacker either threatened or used force first, proving that guns are very well suited for self-defense.
•  90% of all violent crimes in the U.S. do not involve firearms of any type.
• Even banning guns does not slow down criminals. In the U.K., where private ownership of firearms is practically forbidden, criminals have and use guns regularly, and even build their own. One enterprising fellow converted 170 starter pistols to functioning firearms and sold them to gangs. Hundreds of such underground gun factories have been established, contributing to a 35% jump in gun violence

• Only 0.7% of convicts bought their firearms at gun shows. 39.2% obtained them from illegal street dealers.
• Of the 2,500,000 times citizens use guns to defend themselves, 92% merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers.
• Less than 8% of the time does a citizen wound his or her attacker, and in less than one in a thousand instances is the attacker killed.
• For every accidental death, suicide, or homicide with a firearm, 10 lives are saved through defensive use.
• When using guns in self-defense:
  • 83% of robbery victims were not injured.
  • 88% of assault victims were not hurt.
  • 76% of all self-defense use of guns never involve firing a single shot.
• After the implementation of Canada’s 1977 gun controls prohibiting handgun possession for protection, the “breaking and entering” crime rate rose 25%, surpassing the American rate.
• “…most criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police.”
• 11% of police shootings kill an innocent person - about 2% of shootings by citizens kill an innocent person.
• Police have trouble keeping their own guns. Hundreds of firearms are missing from the FBI and 449 of them have been involved in crimes.
• You are far more likely to survive a violent assault if you defend yourself with a gun. In episodes where a robbery victim was injured, the injury/defense rates were: 119, resisting with a gun 6%, did nothing at all 25%, resisted with a knife 40%, non-violent resistance 45%
• Of the 2,500,000 annual self-defense cases using guns, more than 7.7% (192,500) are by women defending themselves against sexual abuse.
• When a woman was armed with a gun or knife, only 3% of rape attacks are completed, compared to 32% when unarmed.
• The probability of serious injury from an attack is 2.5 times greater for women offering no resistance than for women resisting with a gun. Men also benefit from using a gun, but the benefits are smaller at 1.4 times more likely to receive a serious injury.
• In 1966, the city of Orlando responded to a wave of sexual assaults by offering firearms training classes to women. Rapes dropped by nearly 90% the following year
• Deaths and injuries from mass public shootings fall dramatically after right-to-carry concealed handgun laws are enacted. Between 1977 and 1995
  the average death rate from mass shootings plummeted by up to 91% after such laws went into effect, and injuries dropped by over 80%.

For my sources go here http://willcounty.isra.org/forms/GunFacts5-0-screen.pdf

What I would like to see are some statistics that show a connection to a ban on guns and lower gun violence. There are NONE. Notice that I’m not asking for something that shows a correlation. Correlation does not mean causation, everyone in college should know that. It is a fact that criminals fear armed citizens more than police. An armed populace decreases crime more effectively than trust in the police.

Jared Loughner did not obtain his gun legally so what makes you think more laws would have stopped him? We need better enforcement of laws already on the books. Don’t push for more stringent gun laws if the current laws are already adequate, push for better enforcement of the laws. And what about the school psychologist who knew that he was insane but did nothing about it? This was a PROFESSIONAL that deemed him mentally unstable and did nothing about it.

Seung Hui Cho killed two people in the early morning. Three hours later he came back and killed 30 people and himself. If one person would have legally been able to carry a firearm in that first classroom over thirty people would be alive right now. Police officers did nothing in those three hours. There was no active security on that campus like concealed carry provides.

The overall population of America shouldn’t be treated like they are suicidal like you are implying by using the suicidal anti-gun logic. You claim to be a libertarian yet you don’t support the right for autonomous adults to kill themselves?

You call yourself a Libertarian yet you are against the human right to protect yourself (and others) and your property, which is a large part of being a libertarian, which I am.

Glocks with standard magazines have close to 20 round capacities. Ten more rounds didn’t change much. Do you really believe that if extended magazines were illegal he wouldn’t have been able to obtain one? On the black market? Stealing one? It’s like drug prohibition, all it creates is a dangerous profitable black market.

Firearms aren’t just for killing people, you have to realize that. I own over 50 firearms and have many magazines, some holding up to 75 rounds like the one for my AK-47. I enjoy shooting competitively, hunting and target shooting. They make target shooting easier as well as competition shooting. I have never killed any one nor do I ever intend to (unless my life is threatened). I don’t understand why you are wanting to make it more difficult for people like myself to buy firearms. I understand that you simply want the best for everyone and I want to make America safer for the average person too, but your logic doesn’t provide a solution. Making it harder for law-abiding citizens (what deters criminals from engaging in violent behavior) to obtain firearms for self-defense is not the solution. It is a factual statistic that the more guns owned by law-abiding citizens in an area the less crime. That’s why the laws are the way they are. Most state’s laws are ideal in that they allow citizens to get firearms with relative ease but they stop criminals from doing so. Loughner was 1 out of 300,000,000 and now you want to impose a flat ban on high-capacity magazines?

What are your thoughts on concealed carry?